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Elton
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For more than 500 years, the ancient art of catching eels using baited willow traps has been passed down through Mr Carter's family.


Full article here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...-male-heir.html
Sharkbyte
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Mike Heylin, 63, chairman of The Angling Trust, said: 'We are great traditionalists and believe the way country folk like Peter live and work is very important. It would be a huge shame if this wonderful heritage was to die out.'




Absolutely unbelievable!

.....or is it?
Worms
QUOTE (Sharkbyte @ Jul 18 2010, 05:37 PM) *
Absolutely unbelievable!

.....or is it?

S' funny that there are two blokes called Mike Heylin, one's a sympathetic caring soul and the other's a total winker blink.gif
Steve Coppolo
QUOTE (Elton @ Jul 18 2010, 10:43 AM) *


Is this Mike Heylin's idea of a sick joke? Has he deliberately set out to take the p*** out of the very anglers he claims to represent?

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Mike Heylin, 63, chairman of The Angling Trust, said: 'We are great traditionalists and believe the way country folk like Peter live and work is very important. It would be a huge shame if this wonderful heritage was to die out.'


What about the tradition of anglers taking a few eels to eat that Heylin and the Angling Trust assisted in getting banned? As an supposed anglers' representative and defender of anglers' rights, wouldn't you think that Mr Heylin would have considered it a 'huge shame' if the wondeful heritage of anglers taking a few eels to eat was to die out? Well, he obviously didn't. He actually defended the Angling Trust's position in 'assisting throughout the process' of getting anglers banned.

I believe his comment shows a total disregard for anglers, angling tradition, and anglers rights.; especially when you look at what he is trying to defend.

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Mr Carter, who is married to Sian, 43, spends the rest of his day at his workshop in Outwell, Cambridgeshire, where he sells barrels of his eels and makes traps and wicker baskets.


I'm all for supporting small time, traditional, fisherman, but Mike Heylin and the Angling Trust condoned the banning of anglers from taking very few eels for personal consumption, on the premise that the eels stocks were in such a state, that a total ban was justified. Yet here he is trying to defend a commercial eel fisherman's right to carry on selling 'barrels of his eels'.

Hang your head in shame Mike Heylin. You are a disgrace and should resign from your position on the Angling Trust. You obviously do not have the best interest of anglers at heart and have no right to claim that you represent them.
barry luxton
Been interesting on the internet wires today, Here is a reply i put up questioning the A T and it's hangers on regarding the eel take ban. I have been slagged off by the likes of keith arthur who questions both my integrity and conciders that i am on my own with regards to objecting to the exploits of the trust when it comes to the eel take ban, have a read of what i put up then read the reply, you can form your own opinion, enjoy.

quote me:

After spending many years estuary fishing i certainly am aware of what is going to live and die with regards to deep hooked eels, bleeding from the gills is the first clue, so the simplistic remark to cut the line with the added insult to suggest only one hook, sums up the attitude of defra and the E A and the A T who are trying desperately to get their hooks into the successful rsa scene. Yet another insult is to suggest that the likes of you Brian and the trust etc, wish to 'educate' the rsa, What you really mean, as the trust is demonstrating daily, it wishes to impose a governance on the rsa without a mandate. Back on topic, as a clue Brian how do you think the rsa dispatch a fish that it wishes to take home. O k, i will tell you, slit the gills, now how do you think an eel is going to live after it is found bleeding. Do you understand now my point in putting them back dead.

Until the attitude changes i would have to say there will be a heck of a lot of resistance. Brian, yet another insult is to suggest extensive consultation. Not according to the rsa. Don't you understand that the eel debacle was hidden inside of a freshwater consultation. The rsa did not really understand what was going on until the worthless ban was devised by the ea and the trust etc, without consulting the rsa. Does that not register as fact.

What i further understand regarding the worthless eel take ban is that all of the suits including the eu have spent more than a decade discussing the eels plight, paper shuffling at it's best and after all this time this is the best that all have come up with. It's not about understanding the science at all. Just using common sence, it's about looking at the absolute worthless track record all of the so called managers of our resource have come up with to date. A bloody disgrace. Instead of trying to impose wishes on the rsa you should all be hanging your heads in shame. Eel lovers, yer right.

regards barry, a lowly rsa.

Quote tim macpherson

You really have no idea what you are talking about do you!
barry luxton
Blimey again Steve, below is part of my email onto the net mainly aimed at the trust today and i have just read your post above, you sure your not sharing my brain or vis-versa. biggrin.gif

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should all be hanging your heads in shame.
Steve Coppolo
If he thinks you have no idea what you're talking about, I think you should ask Timothy to explain it all to you.

Will be interesting to read what he thinks. Or if he thinks.
barry luxton
QUOTE (Steve Coppolo @ Jul 18 2010, 10:00 PM) *
If he thinks you have no idea what you're talking about, I think you should ask Timothy to explain it all to you.

Will be interesting to read what he thinks. Or if he thinks.


That question has been asked by Deen'O' later on today, gone quiet since:

One final comment Tim you posted the following ‘You really have no idea what you are talking about do you!’ with regard Barry’s reply, would you be kind enough to explain why you are of that opinion.

Tight Lines Bob Shotter
Steve Coppolo
Quotes taken from the Angling Trust forum, regarding the banning of anglers retaining eels.

http://anglingtrust.forumotion.net/open-de...ye-laws-t36.htm

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The Angling Trust is backing the ban and its chairman Mike Heylin said "Without major steps to protect eels from recreational angling and commercial fishing, they are unlikely to get back to a sustainable level.”


From Mark Lloyd;
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Our view is that we need to apply very heavy pressure on the authorities to stop commercial netting of eels and that anglers should do their bit by agreeing to return all eels alive to the water. This gives us a much stronger platform from which we can negotiate.


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Personally, killing an eel would be unthinkable given the state of the stocks. On that basis, we should fight as hard as possible to ban commercial exploitation until stocks recover.


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I agree that the main objective is to stop commercial exploitation of eels, as that has a significant impact. I also agree that the impact of anglers is likely to be completely insignificant.



Does the left hand even know what the right hand is doing?
Elton
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'Twenty years ago, in springtime, in the right weather, I used to get 200 a night,' says Carter. 'Now, it's more like 30 or 40.'


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