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i am a novice fly angler i have never tounched a fly rod in my like but i live in the romford area and there is a little stream near be called the river ingubourne and i have seen trout and some chubb or barbel. i think i could cast a fly rod for sme reason ithink i could i have looked on alot of websites but thay are hardley anyy help.i wacth fihing on sky allday and i am a corse angler but i fancey a cahnge i know use fly angers are good at wat you do so dont b offendedby my novaceness lol...
living up here in God's own county of Lancashire I'm afraid I don't know your area so the advice I would give you is to have an ask round in your local tackle dealers especially the larger ones that clearly sell fly fishing tackle the people in there may well know someone local to you who can show you the ropes.
If you can afford it a couple of hours spent with a local instructor could pay huge dividends as apart from the instruction that you pay for these chaps know the local fishing and can best advise you on where to fish and indeed what tackle to buy. Obtaining such information is money well spent.
Hope this helps
If you can afford it a couple of hours spent with a local instructor could pay huge dividends as apart from the instruction that you pay for these chaps know the local fishing and can best advise you on where to fish and indeed what tackle to buy. Obtaining such information is money well spent.
Hope this helps
Hi Swanyboii and welcome to Anglers Net.
Like Alan I live in Lancashire and don't know your area or waters, but maybe I can try to help a little.
I think you will find the trout season is closed at the moment and will be till early spring sometime. So it might be a good idea to forget about them for a bit.
Ive only ever caught 3 barbel on the fly rod, but i don't know if they really count as 2 were foul hooked when salmon fishing. The other 1 was in summer and i fed red maggot and fished a fast sink line hard on the bottom with maggots on a hook (not what you would call fly fishing really).
The good news is i think you might have more luck with the chub as they feed more frequently then barbel in winter and they quit like a fly for dinner. Ive never really tried for them in winter with the fly, but i don't see why not. Dry fly can be good for chub in summer so that might be a good way to start as Ive seen them take things off the top even on the coldest days in winter.
Brian.
Like Alan I live in Lancashire and don't know your area or waters, but maybe I can try to help a little.
I think you will find the trout season is closed at the moment and will be till early spring sometime. So it might be a good idea to forget about them for a bit.
Ive only ever caught 3 barbel on the fly rod, but i don't know if they really count as 2 were foul hooked when salmon fishing. The other 1 was in summer and i fed red maggot and fished a fast sink line hard on the bottom with maggots on a hook (not what you would call fly fishing really).
The good news is i think you might have more luck with the chub as they feed more frequently then barbel in winter and they quit like a fly for dinner. Ive never really tried for them in winter with the fly, but i don't see why not. Dry fly can be good for chub in summer so that might be a good way to start as Ive seen them take things off the top even on the coldest days in winter.
Brian.
QUOTE (lutra @ Nov 27 2008, 01:33 AM) 
Hi Swanyboii and welcome to Anglers Net.
Like Alan I live in Lancashire and don't know your area or waters, but maybe I can try to help a little.
I think you will find the trout season is closed at the moment and will be till early spring sometime. So it might be a good idea to forget about them for a bit.
Ive only ever caught 3 barbel on the fly rod, but i don't know if they really count as 2 were foul hooked when salmon fishing. The other 1 was in summer and i fed red maggot and fished a fast sink line hard on the bottom with maggots on a hook (not what you would call fly fishing really).
The good news is i think you might have more luck with the chub as they feed more frequently then barbel in winter and they quit like a fly for dinner. Ive never really tried for them in winter with the fly, but i don't see why not. Dry fly can be good for chub in summer so that might be a good way to start as Ive seen them take things off the top even on the coldest days in winter.
Brian.
Like Alan I live in Lancashire and don't know your area or waters, but maybe I can try to help a little.
I think you will find the trout season is closed at the moment and will be till early spring sometime. So it might be a good idea to forget about them for a bit.
Ive only ever caught 3 barbel on the fly rod, but i don't know if they really count as 2 were foul hooked when salmon fishing. The other 1 was in summer and i fed red maggot and fished a fast sink line hard on the bottom with maggots on a hook (not what you would call fly fishing really).
The good news is i think you might have more luck with the chub as they feed more frequently then barbel in winter and they quit like a fly for dinner. Ive never really tried for them in winter with the fly, but i don't see why not. Dry fly can be good for chub in summer so that might be a good way to start as Ive seen them take things off the top even on the coldest days in winter.
Brian.
so if i got a cheap fly rod and reall and a book of flies like thisss>>>>http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/go-fishing-fly-combo-17715021/ ...... the go to the local strem (in london) ats where i live and have a couple of hours of a weeekend i could have a chance????also dry file would thay b better for the winter ??? thnks for all posts though
Swanyboii,
To echo Alan's sound advice, before you possibly waste money on a fly rod and reel, try and get some help from a local, experienced angler who can show you the basics, and advise on what you may need for the fishing you intend to do. I'm sure if you contact a local club they would direct you to someone who could offer advice. If not, there are plenty on this forum who I'm sure would be pleased to help.
I know for sure that if I hadn't had expert help when I started fly fishing then I may well have ended up making a poor choice and spending far more money than I needed to. As it is, I've now got a rod that's perfectly suited for me and didn't break the bank, although I havent caught that much yet....Still, it's great fun learning!
Janet
To echo Alan's sound advice, before you possibly waste money on a fly rod and reel, try and get some help from a local, experienced angler who can show you the basics, and advise on what you may need for the fishing you intend to do. I'm sure if you contact a local club they would direct you to someone who could offer advice. If not, there are plenty on this forum who I'm sure would be pleased to help.
I know for sure that if I hadn't had expert help when I started fly fishing then I may well have ended up making a poor choice and spending far more money than I needed to. As it is, I've now got a rod that's perfectly suited for me and didn't break the bank, although I havent caught that much yet....Still, it's great fun learning!
Janet
QUOTE (swanyboii @ Nov 27 2008, 01:25 AM)
so if i got a cheap fly rod and reall and a book of flies like thisss>>>>http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/go-fishing-fly-combo-17715021/ ...... the go to the local strem (in london) ats where i live and have a couple of hours of a weeekend i could have a chance????also dry file would thay b better for the winter ??? thnks for all posts though
It is possible to start fly fishing by getting a cheap setup like that and having a go. However it is a hard way to start especially on a small stream if there is not much room and if there is no one else to watch and learn from.
One way you could have a go with a fly for the chub and cheap is to get a bubble float and fish with that on a coarse fishing rod & reel. Just put the bubble float on the end of your line with a 3-4 foot leader with a dry fly on the end and trot it down the stream watching for anything taking the fly.
Brian.
Firstly Do you have any transport?
If so and if you can get yourself to Grafham Water on 7th Dec. Grafham Water Fly Fishers have a casting morning. There is 1 place left and it's £15 for 4 hours tuition with Peter Hartley. 9am to 1pm.
This is aimed mainly at Pike Fly Casting but the principles are exactly the same. Peter has tackle you can use.
Let me know.
Colin
If so and if you can get yourself to Grafham Water on 7th Dec. Grafham Water Fly Fishers have a casting morning. There is 1 place left and it's £15 for 4 hours tuition with Peter Hartley. 9am to 1pm.
This is aimed mainly at Pike Fly Casting but the principles are exactly the same. Peter has tackle you can use.
Let me know.
Colin
QUOTE (Colin Brett @ Nov 27 2008, 09:44 AM)
Firstly Do you have any transport?
If so and if you can get yourself to Grafham Water on 7th Dec. Grafham Water Fly Fishers have a casting morning. There is 1 place left and it's £15 for 4 hours tuition with Peter Hartley. 9am to 1pm.
This is aimed mainly at Pike Fly Casting but the principles are exactly the same. Peter has tackle you can use.
Let me know.
Colin
If so and if you can get yourself to Grafham Water on 7th Dec. Grafham Water Fly Fishers have a casting morning. There is 1 place left and it's £15 for 4 hours tuition with Peter Hartley. 9am to 1pm.
This is aimed mainly at Pike Fly Casting but the principles are exactly the same. Peter has tackle you can use.
Let me know.
Colin
where isit anywhere near canning town in eastlondon
Have you tried having a chat with the staff at your local tackle shop? They may be able to find someone who'd be willing to take you out and they should also be able to give you the details of local clubs.
There's always someone willing to pass on their experience and help a newcomer.
Janet
There's always someone willing to pass on their experience and help a newcomer.
Janet
QUOTE (swanyboii @ Nov 27 2008, 04:57 PM)
where isit anywhere near canning town in eastlondon
So you don't have transport?? Is that correct??
If you don't? Forget Grafham as it's about 70 miles north of London just off the A1.
QUOTE (Colin Brett @ Nov 28 2008, 10:36 AM)
So you don't have transport?? Is that correct??
If you don't? Forget Grafham as it's about 70 miles north of London just off the A1.
If you don't? Forget Grafham as it's about 70 miles north of London just off the A1.
Colin from a post in the course section swany is 14
!Swany walthamstow resavoiur is twenty minutes on a bus from Canning town, they stock Trout and and have a club who would help novices dont start on a small stream without help you would be disillusioned in an hour and never try again. A trout stream in Romford
theres a thing!
QUOTE (five bellies @ Nov 28 2008, 05:18 PM)
Colin from a post in the course section swany is 14 !
Swany walthamstow resavoiur is twenty minutes on a bus from Canning town, they stock Trout and and have a club who would help novices dont start on a small stream without help you would be disillusioned in an hour and never try again. A trout stream in Romford theres a thing!
!Swany walthamstow resavoiur is twenty minutes on a bus from Canning town, they stock Trout and and have a club who would help novices dont start on a small stream without help you would be disillusioned in an hour and never try again. A trout stream in Romford
theres a thing!Have you got a bike?
Only kidding Swany.
As I said forget Grafham it's a bit to far for you.
Now when you get some transport of your own and if you are still interested in 3 or 4 years, give Grafham a go!!
Good luck
I would start with a still water who will lend you tackle. Don't rush into buying fly fishing tackle don't forget the rod is absolutely essential to your style and place of fishing ..... buy the wrong action/length rod and you will regret it. But if you really want to go for a cheap purchase straight away then stick to the tried and tested bargain from Shakespeare, the Trion. If you can get the cash for the next step up then go for the small makers like Mick Bells Bloke Rods (who made my favorite rod ever for £100 a bargain believe or or not, he is on ebay).
There is a reservoir in Walthamstow where they do lots of beginner lessons. I have not been there myself but on the Flyforums it gets some good reviews ...... looks like a bleak place to me ...... but it's meant to be very good for starters.
There are also some small waters around Romford:
http://www.go-fish.co.uk/essex.htm
I would also join the flyforum (as well as this truly fantastic forum I have just joined) and get some beginner advice and even tackle offers.
There is a reservoir in Walthamstow where they do lots of beginner lessons. I have not been there myself but on the Flyforums it gets some good reviews ...... looks like a bleak place to me ...... but it's meant to be very good for starters.
There are also some small waters around Romford:
http://www.go-fish.co.uk/essex.htm
I would also join the flyforum (as well as this truly fantastic forum I have just joined) and get some beginner advice and even tackle offers.
Start off with your knowledge of coarse fishing.
Use the knowledge from the telly to set up a rod and then use a straight forward size 18/20 hook on the end.
Put a maggot or two on it (worm and bread will whizz off)
Now get out there and try whizzing the line out just like you saw on the telly.
Get a pal to video you on their phone and then look at the shape that the line makes and check it against the telly etc.
Go down the library and use the online search to find a dvd to start you off.
Do not worry about having the perfect cast that will come later.
If you catch fish... go for it.
The key skill is in straightening the line once you have made the cast then you will register the bite.
If you are regularly catching with the bait then substitue a fly on the end.
Use the knowledge from the telly to set up a rod and then use a straight forward size 18/20 hook on the end.
Put a maggot or two on it (worm and bread will whizz off)
Now get out there and try whizzing the line out just like you saw on the telly.
Get a pal to video you on their phone and then look at the shape that the line makes and check it against the telly etc.
Go down the library and use the online search to find a dvd to start you off.
Do not worry about having the perfect cast that will come later.
If you catch fish... go for it.
The key skill is in straightening the line once you have made the cast then you will register the bite.
If you are regularly catching with the bait then substitue a fly on the end.
QUOTE (wunnus @ Jan 1 2009, 11:51 AM)
Start off with your knowledge of coarse fishing.
Use the knowledge from the telly to set up a rod and then use a straight forward size 18/20 hook on the end.
Put a maggot or two on it (worm and bread will whizz off)
Now get out there and try whizzing the line out just like you saw on the telly.
Get a pal to video you on their phone and then look at the shape that the line makes and check it against the telly etc.
Go down the library and use the online search to find a dvd to start you off.
Do not worry about having the perfect cast that will come later.
If you catch fish... go for it.
The key skill is in straightening the line once you have made the cast then you will register the bite.
If you are regularly catching with the bait then substitue a fly on the end.
Use the knowledge from the telly to set up a rod and then use a straight forward size 18/20 hook on the end.
Put a maggot or two on it (worm and bread will whizz off)
Now get out there and try whizzing the line out just like you saw on the telly.
Get a pal to video you on their phone and then look at the shape that the line makes and check it against the telly etc.
Go down the library and use the online search to find a dvd to start you off.
Do not worry about having the perfect cast that will come later.
If you catch fish... go for it.
The key skill is in straightening the line once you have made the cast then you will register the bite.
If you are regularly catching with the bait then substitue a fly on the end.
moggots on a Trout water,Thats good advice, espeacialy if you never want to go back!
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